Hey, guys. What I'm about to say is going to be annoying, but if I don't address it, I might punch someone in the face. I don't want that, you don't want that (you very much want that). Can you even punch the internet in the face? Anyway, it's sort of amazing to me that you can take the most liberal, "accepting" bunch of people and bring up the obesity epidemic with them, and all this hate comes spilling out. That's why I usually avoid reading stuff about weight when it can't be handled in a mature way (even my favorite sites can be assholes), but yet, I still read Gawker today when it addressed a new movement for fat acceptance.
Here's the quote from the New York Times article that got things going:This movement - a loose alliance of therapists, scientists and others - holds that all people, "even" fat people, can eat whatever they want and, in the process, improve their physical and mental health and stabilize their weight. The aim is to behave as if you have reached your "goal weight" and to act on ambitions postponed while trying to become thin, everything from buying new clothes to changing careers. Regular exercise should be for fun, not for slimming.
Jezebel obviously handled the issue in a positive way, but I still felt the need to get pissed over this Gawker writer's assessment: "Yes, it's perfectly okay for people to engorge themselves silly every day as long as they can trick themselves into believing that their bloated bodies are 'normal.' So very painfully modern, no?"
Why does everything have to turn into a body judgment? This isn't about accepting bodies so that people can become more unhealthy; acceptance should lead to a healthier mentality which is the only way people can lose weight and make positive steps. Why is this so hard to understand? Why is it that people who have been thin all their lives think they are experts on psychology and weight loss? Can't we talk about this in a reasoned way without the fucking value judgments that don't further the discussion? Obesity and eating disorders are the same national issue, and it all has to do with how we talk about bodies. Shame and discrimination are certainly not helping things. If we could couple education about health with a lack of judgment, we could definitely turn the epidemic around. But people would hate giving up their right to being self-righteous assholes, so that will never happen. When I made a comment with my opinion (which included nothing about my own body or issues, by the way), this is what I got: I think taking responsibility for oneself goes further than trying to make society accept stuff it doesn't want to accept. If you want to accept your fatness, then go right ahead. But that doesn't mean I'm going to.
I'm not going to accept a lot of things I don't like about other people and that's my perogative. Whether it's their conservative political views or their tendency to wear Crocs. If I accepted everyone, oh the raggedy group of friends I would have!
AND these fatties always squeeze me on the subway and buses. They see I'm not quite taking up my whole seat so they squeeze in beside me. And I can't breathe. When that stops happening on a daily basis maybe I'll be in a better mood. I don't need them with more power than they already have. The power of suffocating me. Enough is enough.
How educational! And:Ummmm, the obese people are adults (I won't get into the children, who of course are fed by adults). What part of "eat fewer calories, get off the couch" needs to be "taught"? It's like cigarettes - you know the dangers. If you smoke 'em anyway, the ramifications are clear. Just like if you eat junk food, in large quantities, and live a completely sedentary life, the ramifications are clear. Are you telling me that the explosion in obesity from 1980 is a collective loss of intelligence and/or knowledge?
I'm fat because I eat junk food and don't move from the couch! Duh! Alcoholics can't stop drinking because they love the taste of alcohol, and people with depression are just bumming me out. How can people be so ignorant to human nature and, not to mention, society's impact on choice. So we've tried the public shaming of fat people for a couple generations; maybe we should see if a more positive approach works. There was just a study out about how children are aware of being treated differently when they're overweight, and how this causes depression. Even their teachers treat them differently; the teachers are more likely to assume chubby (or even, ALMOST chubby) girls are stupid and lazy. (The boys are less likely to be discriminated against by teachers but still develop feelings of depression/anxiety/loneliness based on peer relationships.) Depressed, overweight children are going to turn into depressed, obese adults. OR depressed, overweight children are going to develop eating disorders, or other addictive/negative behaviors.
It's off to me that people like Meme Roth can go on TV and make rude commentary about people who struggle with their weight, yet remain completely unaware of their own eating issues. That makes it more obvious that this is ALL of our issue. I've written before about my struggles with weight, and many of you had dealt with the same things, even if we were never similar sizes. Not being a scientist/psychologist, I can still say that people don't want to go to the gym when they feel like others are judging their bodies. People don't want to get healthy when they feel worthless. People don't want to feel good about themselves when they're told they don't deserve to from a young age.
It's easiest for me to be healthy when I'm in a healthy state of mind. This past week, I was feeling crappy about my body and myself, and I made some really bad choices around food. I shouldn't even have to explain that self-punishment is the same no matter the addictive behavior; these issues are really complicated. I don't think this makes me a bad person, or a weak-willed person. I still got up on Monday, started over, and went for a run with Anne. But I wouldn't have been able to if I had believed those things about myself that those asshole commenters want me to believe. No matter the mistakes I make around the issue of my weight, I shouldn't have to believe that these are connected to my value as a person; accepting myself, no matter my size on any given day, is the only way to get to where I want to go. This should be a no-brainer but I guess people are really attached to their hate.
There's this weird need for some people who are thin (not healthy per se, but thin) to give their opinion on the health and "grossness" (cross-language pun!) of others based purely on physical appearance. I had a friend who actually made a point to look at my grocery store receipt (or something similar) and comment that I should be eating more fruits and vegetables. And our building maintenance guy made a point to tell me that if I ran every day, I would definitely lose weight. Never mind that I didn't say anything about desiring to lose weight. When I discuss the (very long) process of losing weight with family and friends, it almost always becomes a laundry list of "helpful" tips and tricks when my goal is about health (yet I'm the one who needs help...?). Everyone's a goddamn expert on overweight people's choices and bodies.
On top of hearing all the time how fat is ugly, we are inundated with messages about our choices being so much more connected to our value than the regular Joe. I can't have McDonald's on occasion because I'm fat and that's unhealthy, but someone who is thin can eat whatever they want; so then health wasn't anyone's main concern then. Then there's this weird need to justify myself; I eat healthy; I exercise 3-5 times a week. And I try my very best to maintain a healthy attitude about my body despite the media and everyone around me making me feel wrong. So you tell me: if I'm trying to accept myself and no one else is, is this helping or hurting?
(By the way, the photo above is from a site called Operation Beautiful. I tried to find a picture of a well-known overweight [body-loving] actress but that's a lot harder than one would think. From the website: "The mission of Operation Beautiful is to post anonymous notes in public places for other women to find.")
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I know, I know--it's just the internet. I probably wouldn't get so mad at the internet if those sentiments weren't also reflected constantly in real life.
KISS MY FAT ASS.
I'm going to be a nerd and say that I think that a lot of the controversy/vitrol is caused by linguistics. It's easy for many people to hear the term "fat acceptance" and (inappropriately) assume that it means acceptance of an unhealthy lifestyle. There are tons of issues with that, mainly that a "healthy" weight may not have anything to do with actual health, and that societal definitions and medical definitions of "fat" are wildly misaligned.
I think that the fat acceptance movement is really about confidence, more than anything. I don't think one can really embark on a lifestyle change like eating well and getting adequate exercise if one isn't accepting of THE PERSON INSIDE ALREADY (I am Oprah right now). But seriously---if you're not confident in yourself as is, you won't find that confidence by dieting down to a slimmer size.
There are so many people who think that getting thin will lead them to some higher level of acceptance, but it's hard to gain that sort of satisfaction solely through one's appearance (though my own vanity says otherwise).
I think Shawn is right. People heard that phrase and rather than, you know, READ THE ARTICLE, just started spewing idiocy and ignorance.
I had problems with the article itself as well (NY Times, not Gawker's crap summation because that wasn't an article so much as link-bait), specifically that quote and the idea that fat acceptance="eat whatever you want" but I won't get into that because I'll start ranting.
What amazed me is that people take it so incredibly personally, and start spouting the same arguments the right uses against things like gay marriage and abortion.
"...and then I end up paying for it! ME ME ME! It's all about me!"
Huh? My deciding to accept my body and clothing size affects YOU? How? Because health care costs go up? That makes no sense, and all those commenters clearly had no idea how the healthcare system in America works. While there are costs related to health issues that affect everyone, it's a strawman. You could insert literally anything in there and make that same argument.
"Stop crossing the street! Every time you get hit by a car, I pay! Me me me!"
The thing is, they all started getting into these attacks (Really, commenter? You don't accept anyone with a different thought or opinion from you ever? You must be fun to hang out with.), incorrectly discussing the issue of obesity as a health issue rather than the actual "fat acceptance" movement.
Which, in reality, are very different. As a nation, we should be worried about rising levels of obesity since 1980 because, I don't know. For example, it is linked to poverty in certain areas of the country, often because those fresh, organic fruits and vegetables those commenters kept yelling to eat are FUCKING EXPENSIVE, so those with lower incomes buy other less healthy foods. They also kept saying shit like, "But in France they aren't fat!" Well, fine. Whatever. But in France, they don't produce the same amounts of processed foods, and foods are regulated in price. Yes, the EU regulates food prices so it doesn't end up costing $9 for a pound of grapes (I'm bitter, I just paid $9 for a pound of grapes).
The WHOLE POINT of "fat acceptance" is that we should embrace healthy lifestyles and stop obsessively counting calories, going on crash diets, and ultimately doing ourselves more harm than good.
Not, "YAY FOR OBESITY!" But more, "We as individuals are predisposed to certain body types. Rather than try to unhealthily maintain a body we aren't meant to have, let's accept our shapes, whatever they are, and focus on living well."
The idea that anyone with body fat is unhealthy is preposterous, wrong, and the very idea "fat acceptance" wants to debunk.
Also, I wanna punch the person who looked at your grocery receipt and commented on it. WHAT THE FUCK? WHO DOES THAT?
Sigh. Gemma. Thank God you exist. Yes to all of that. I didn't even want to delve into the classism/racism that goes along with the hate but you did it for me. The way we as a nation deal with food (fetishizing/healthy food for the wealthy/too much work & not enough time to cook) had lead to a lot of problems. But no one seems to see the big picture; how can such a sudden problem be all about will power and the individual? It doesn't make sense.
And people couldn't WAIT to jump into their ignorant arguments without reading the article because they feel so justified in their hatred. It's disgusting. But yes. We shouldn't even call it fat acceptance. It should be body acceptance. If no one was worried about my body for faux health/beauty reasons, my feelings about myself would be radically different. And I think most of the population (especially women) would agree.
(I can't get too specific about the receipt thing...it was actually much creepier than that. Remind me to tell you what happened later.)